When it comes to woodworking, it is important to choose the right screws for your project. Most of the screws either have a coarse thread or a fine thread. But how do I know which one to use? Does coarse thread screw hold better than a fine thread screw, or vise versa? Does it really matter what screws I use? Should I be using coarse or fine thread Kreg screws? After some research, this is what I found.
Coarse-thread screws are used mainly for plywood and softwood like pine, cedar, and fir. Fine-threaded screws are used for hardwood such as oak, maple, and cherry.
You must be always sure about your tools and the screws that you should be using. To the normal eye, there may be no difference between two types of screws but if you wish to get your job done in the best possible way, choosing the right screw can be the decider between the success and the failure of any project.
Though there are hundreds and thousands of screw types to select from in the industrial and the construction sectors, we will focus on the Kreg screws for wood and carpentry work. Every sector has its own needs and specifications and the same stands true for screws used in woodworking.
Before you choose the screw that is best for your project you need to determine certain characteristics of the screw that you want to use. So what are the characteristics that you need to check?
Characteristics to Look for in a Screw
Based on the type of work and the type of surface that the screw is to be used, there are certain characteristics of the screw that you need to watch out for in order to ensure that the same is usable and can be utilized for your project.
1. Length of the Screw – You need to figure out the length of the screws that you would need to use for the project. The screw length is determined based on the wood thickness that you’re using for your project.
2. Non-Corrosiveness – You must ensure that the screw that you are using must be non-corrosive in nature so that it does not rust or corrode. More so, if you are aware that the project that you are building will be exposed to moisture for prolonged periods, the screws would need to be covered with anti-corrosion layers.
3. The thickness of the Screw – The next thing to consider is the thickness of the screws that are to be used in your woodwork projects. Based on the needs of your project, you can decide on the thickness of the screws to be used.
4. Threading on the screws – Different screws would have different threadings on them, and based on the project requirements, you would need different types of screw threadings to fasten and complete different projects. This is where you determine the type of threading – coarse or fine.
We will focus more on the type of threading – coarse and fine and will find out more about whether you need coarse Kreg screws or fine Kreg screws for all your Kreg jigs.
Let us understand the difference between Coarse Thread and Fine thread screws, to begin with.
What is the Difference Between Fine Thread and Coarse Thread Wood Screws?
When it comes to a comparison of the two types of threads in screws, the coarse threaded screws are a fantastic choice owing to the fact that they can be used under rough conditions and still turn out to be very useful. In such rough usage conditions, coarse threaded screws are more durable and can withstand heavy-duty usage and light damages.
When it comes to the usage of specific measurements, fine-threaded screws are the best option. The fine thread screws feature a very high tensile strength which makes these screws ideal for applications needing strength. The fine threading including a shallow pitch in these fine thread screws, makes them less prone to loosening due to vibrations in heavy-duty applications. Moreover, you don’t need to cut to fix these fine threaded screws, and hence making holes on surfaces for fixing these fine threaded screws is much easier.
Having seen the basic differences between the two, let us point out some of the other differences as well.
Coarse Threads vs Fine Threads
- Coarse thread screws are less likely to cross thread as compared to fine thread screws
- Handling is easier with coarse thread screws than with fine thread screws.
- Coarse thread screws strip less when fastened to wood surfaces with less thickness as compared to Fine threads.
- Fine-thread screws are more prone to damage than coarse-thread screws that have lesser thread engagements.
- Fine-thread screws are best for applications with smaller, shorter, and specific measurements – coarse-thread screws are better for comparatively bigger applications.
- Coarse thread screws are suitable for applications that need to be done with high speed and precision. Fine thread applications need more time and need to be handled with care.
- Fine threads are more prone to thread galling than the coarse thread screws.
- Fine thread screws have better tensile strength than the coarse thread screws due to larger stress area and diameter.
- Fine thread screws loosen comparatively less during vibrations as they have comparatively less helix angle than the coarse thread screws
- Fine Threads screws maintain better clamping force and tightness than the coarse thread screws due to the smaller helix angles of the fine thread screws.
Now that we have seen the differences between the two thread types let us look at some of the other aspects of these threads.
Types of Sood to use Coarse-Thread Screws
Coarse thread screws work best with woods that are soft and not too dense. That is because these types of woods need screws that have deep aggressive threads that will bite in easily into those softwood fibers. As such the coarse thread Kreg screws find their applications in these types of woods such as plywood and MDF. Coarse threads on these wood types ensure the strength and durability that the applications need. They fasten to these surfaces better than other wood surfaces.
There are many other wood types as well where these coarse thread screws are used as well which include woods such as Pine, Cedar, Spruce, Fir, Aspen, Poplar, Basswood, Plywood, Butternut, MDF, Particle Board, Melamine, etc.
Types of Sood to use Fine Thread Screws
When it comes to fine thread screws, hardwoods are more preferable. These hardwood surfaces are too hard and dense and hence coarse thread screws may not be the best fit for all such hardwood surfaces.
If you use coarse thread screws for these surfaces, their aggressive threading may result in tearing and splitting of the wood surface that you are using in your project. As such you need less aggressive threading and as such fine thread screws ensure that you get the desired holding and clamping power without the splitting apart of the wood.
As such, choose Kreg screws with fine threads for use on hardwood surfaces such as Oak, Cherry, Maplewood, Walnut, Hickory, Mahogany, etc.
Now, let us look at a couple of more FAQs on the same.
When can you use Fine-Threaded Screws?
With all that we have seen in defining and describing the fine threaded screws, these fine threaded screws are stronger in terms of their tensile strength and their claiming capability as they are harder to shake and vibrate. However, these screws are not so popular in their usage or are less commonly used as they are pretty delicate to handle and work with.
There are more chances of damage to the threads and cross-threading with fine thread screws. Also, with fine thread screws, there are more chances of galling since there are more rotations and they may just slide against the friction.
So, to answer this question – these fine threaded screws can still be used almost anywhere you want but for best results, as we saw earlier, they should be used with harder and more dense wood surfaces. So, harder and denser the material finer shall be the threading of the screw for best fastening and clamping results.
Having said that, is fine thread screw better in terms of holding capacity than the coarse thread screw? Let us find out.
Does Coarse Thread Hold Better Than Fine Thread Screws?
This is one of the most asked questions and is a legitimate one. Though fine thread screws have a larger tensile strength and higher stress area that makes them good with hardwood surfaces, the coarse thread screws are more preferred due to their greater overall resistance to stripping and cross-threading. So for all major applications, the coarse thread screws have certain advantages to fine thread screws due to the following characteristics:
- Higher Resistance to cross-threading and stripping.
- Not affected due to thread nicking
- Do not usually gall – no galling effect
- Easy to handle and work with
- Faster the assemble and fasten
- Better plating on coarse threads hence better results.
So to answer the question – Yes Coarse thread screws hold better due to all the characteristics that we discussed and provided that the wood type that is used is softwood and not the harder wood types.
But does that make the fine thread screws any less – No, the fine thread screws too find their appropriate usage and applications in wood types they are suitable for. Use this piece to find out which screw type to use and when. Keep it as a ready reference for all the questions that you may have in your mind and more.
What are the Best Screws for Pine Wood?
There are a few different types of screws that work well with pine wood. These include:
-Drywall screws: these have a sharp point and coarse threads that grip the wood well. They can be used for attaching drywall to studs or attaching furring strips to walls.
-Deck screws: these have a sharp point and a reverse thread that grips the wood well. They can be used for attaching deck boards or building fences.
-Construction screws: these have a blunt point and coarse threads that grip the wood well. They can be used for attaching lumber together or fastening plywood to studs.
Frequently Asked Questions
Yes, you can use fine thread drywall screws on wood. However, it is not recommended as the threads may not grip as well, and the screw may not hold as securely. It is always best to use the type of screw that is specifically designed for the material you are working with.
There is no definitive answer to this question since it depends on a number of factors, such as the thickness of the plywood, the type of wood being used, and the desired finish. In general, though, most experts recommend using fine-threaded screws for plywood projects. This is because coarse-threaded screws can sometimes cause the plywood to split or crack. Additionally, fine-threaded screws provide a stronger hold and are less likely to loosen over time.
9 thoughts on “When to use Coarse or Fine Thread Kreg Screws?”
This article consistently implies coarse thread screws are for softwoods until the end when suddenly it states “Coarse thread screws hold better due to all the characteristics that we discussed and provided that the wood type that is used is hardwood and not the softer wood types.” If we are to use coarse thread screws to “hold better” in hardwoods, are there any special techniques that should be used?
Hi Russ, that was a mistake, I fixed it. Coarse thread screws work best in softwood. I always try to drill a pilot hole (especially on the hardwood) before driving in the screws. This will prevent the wood from cracking and the screw from breaking off.
Hi, I’m trying to work out if I’m using the right screws on a project. The material is radiata pine, 18mm thick. I’m using kreg 32mm coarse thread, as most resources say pine is softwood, including the above article; however, some sources are saying radiata is a dense softwood so should I be using fine threads? The joins feel pretty flimsy with the coarse threads.
Hi Jon, I would use coarse-thread screws on radiata pine because it is still considered softwood. You could purchase a small amount of fine thread screws and test it out. But from my experience course thread screws are the best for pine wood.
I use fine thread pocket hole screws exclusively from Pine all the way up to Ironwood. That’s because the coarse thread screws tear or strip very easily in Pine. I find that the fine threads hold better and almost never strip out in Pine. Coarse thread screws are a waste of money imo.
I need to install four small metal swivel castors (antique) under a block of arbutus (madrone- a hard wood). From your write-up, I should use fine-thread screws, right?
How about suggesting a particular screw, i.e. thread size, length, and width, and a corresponding pre-drill size?
The castors are 1-3/4″ x 1-1/4″ and have 4 holes each.
The arbutus block D=4′, thickness=4″.
I’m still confused,( inexperienced grannie) dried some willow planks. I want to make a bench to sit on, I’ve purchased trapezoid legs. The wood is raw edge ,about 3 -4 ” thick. Sound like I would use fine screws, but not sure, help‼️ Will put the bench outdoors ,thanks Serena
Does it really matter whether coarse or fine areused?
I have 1 1/4” walnut and there is no such thing as a 2” fine kreg pocket screw. Should i use course screws or a smaller fine screw?